Pechanga Tribe Fights Proposed Quarry
Pechanga Tribe throws support behind a new state bill to protect their land from proposed quarry.
Pechanga Indians are fighting to protect what they consider to be the birthplace of their tribe.
The Pechanga band of Luiseno Indians recently announced it is sponsoring a bipartisan bill with more than 30 co-authors in the state Legislature.
The goal is to protect the mountain that is considered the birthplace of creation for Pechanga and other Luiseno tribes, tribal spokesperson Jacob Mejia said.
After reviewing Liberty Quarry’s Draft Environmental Impact Report, the Pechanga Band determined the 414-acre mine would damage the land.
“Our tribe participated in the environmental review process and took extraordinary and unprecedented steps to provide Riverside County with ethnographic and other evidence detailing the significance of this area to Pechanga,” tribal Chairman Mark Macarro said.
Despite Granite Construction's own ethnographic experts acknowledging the site as significant to the tribe, the county disagreed with the May 2009 study, which states that county supervisors “disagree with the Tribe's characterization of the area in and around the proposed project site.” The county found the cultural impacts to be “less than significant” under the California Enviromental Quality Act.
Macarro is incensed that county planners deemed their tribe's place of creation insignificant.
“That county planners deemed our tribe’s place of creation ‘insignificant’ under CEQA despite overwhelming and independent evidence to the contrary is disgraceful,” Macarro said.
“Because county planners have failed to honor the spirit of the law designed to protect such areas, we are forced to seek additional legislation to protect our place of creation from destruction,” he added.
Democratic assembly member Bonnie Lowenthal authrored the bill, AB 742. This bill would amend the Public Resources Code to include aggregate operations on the list of mining activities restricted near Native American sacred sites.
“I believe respecting one another’s religious beliefs is key to a healthy society,” said Lowenthal. “And there’s probably no better place to demonstrate this than on a mountain where some believe life itself began,” she said.
The controversial Liberty Quarry is also opposed by the City of Temecula, the Santa Margarita Ecological Reserve that is immediately adjacent to the proposed area, thousands of residents, hundreds of businesses, more than 150 physicians that live and work in the Temecula Valley, Southern California Indian Tribes, and every federally recognized Luiseño Tribe, Mejia explained.
The Rose Institute of State and Local Government at Claremont Mckenna College analyzed Granite Construction's EIR.
Calculating all of the benefits and the costs associated with the proposed Liberty Quarry, the Rose Institute estimates that “the quarry will reduce property values by $540 million and cost the region an additional $80 million per year,” with an “estimated total cumulative net negative impact of $3.6 billion to the region.”
Tired
7:29 pm on Saturday, August 6, 2011
How many times is this quarry going to be in discussion? Didnt it get ruled against time and time again? Do they keep trying different tactics to wear the community down to just accept it? I want them to go away!
sherry
8:46 pm on Saturday, August 6, 2011
How much money is being paid to these county supervisors? They must be getting kick-back money to try to pass the quarry in Temecula. The quarry is not wanted by any resident in the Temecula area, and they better not even try to go ahead with this plan to destroy our mountains and pollute our air!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Candi Oliver
9:37 pm on Saturday, August 6, 2011
Tell the supervisors in Riverside if they think it is such a good idea to have a Quarry put the Quarry out it in Riverside there are lots of Granite Mountains there and the atmosphere is already polluted. Leave the Temecula Valley alone...
Candi
Jerry Simeon
7:02 am on Sunday, August 7, 2011
Ignoring all the SIGNIFICANT OPPOSITION of the Land owners, Business owners, Residents/Home owners, Tribes, and Cities (incorporated or not),..... the fact that this project is a monstrous 414 acres, will produce unfathomable, permanent and irreversible destruction to the environment and ground water should be ENOUGH for county officials who supposedly represent all of the afore mentioned. Again, I would remind you of the 9th and 10th Amendments to the constitution that gives citizens the rights to do what our government fails to do for the benefit of all. Granite is not the only Demon here. It is our Public Representatives who are forcing this issue in some escued and illegal form of Imminent Domain.
Jerry Simeon
11:01 am on Sunday, August 7, 2011
Postscript: FYI - A section of land is one mile square, 640 acres.... 414 acres is 2/3 of a section or approx. 12,250,000 sq feet.
Greg
9:38 am on Sunday, August 7, 2011
One way or another Liberty Quarry must NOT go forward. Liberty Quarry would be nothing but a blight on our community.
sherry
10:27 am on Sunday, August 7, 2011
Seems the best answer is to fire these county supervisors. We pay their salaries, they work for us, the residents, they need to be replaced
Jerry Simeon
10:35 am on Sunday, August 7, 2011
If we don't stand for something.... We fall for anything. This is beyond politics. This is a direct threat on our society, our people, and our land. These public "Representatives" are subverting our Constitutinal inalienable rights of land ownership individually and communally.
Cik Bast
11:08 am on Sunday, August 7, 2011
How can the community combat this quarry? When are and how do learn of public local government meetings? Also, is anyone investigating financial ties to local and county supervisors?
Leroy Achoy
11:20 am on Sunday, August 7, 2011
11:19am on Sunday, August 7, 2011
To be against the quarry is to be against America and the American way.
Mining is what makes America strong as it creates high paying blue collar jobs. The millions of dollars in taxes will help bring our state, county and cities revenue.
You hate America if you do not support industry in America as this is what is needed to keep America going.
God bless America, land of the free and home of the brave.
Tired
12:20 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
Leroy, how dare you say we are unAmerican by voicing our opinions against this Quarry. You are showing us an unAmerican way by trying to shove something down the throats of the people who live here by people who do not. It seems to me that you are a plant from the Quarry. In America if we vote or our elected officials vote against something then it is so. Your argument is illogical by saying we are unAmerican by not supporting Industry. No one is saying they are against industry. How about if we put the quarry where your house is, would that be OK? Industry does not need to be on every street corner to sustain life in America. It can be in the desert or other areas that it would not affect the health or way of life here. I know lets park all the trucks on your street and let your children breathe all the dust. Now tell me is that American enough for you? Here is your argument, Leroy has eyes, a potato has eyes, therefore Leroy is a potato
sherry
1:37 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
God Bless America, and keep the quarry far far away. I love America, therefore I hate polluters like the quarry. Mine granite somewhere else
Popeye
5:16 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011
sounds very unAmerican. teaparty is a terrorist hate group that waves the American flag.
Leroy Achoy
1:01 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
I support the quarry! 1st of all I am not shoving anything down your throat or anyone else's. I am voicing my opinion and no I am not affiliated in any way with the quarry. Try and put the quarry where? The desert? That's a joke! Have you heard of environmentalists? Remember they scream about the endangered turtle or the k-rat, or some fly, etc. (Oops are you one of those?)
The quarry has had a full environmental report approving it's location. There is far more dust and pollution created by the hundreds of thousands of cars that drive on the I-15 freeway everyday, should we get rid of the I-15 freeway?
Here is the South Coast Air Quality Management District full report: (Don't let the facts get in your way.)
http://www.libertyquarryfacts.com/studies/FEIR%20Liberty%20Quarry%20FINAL.pdf
Myth: Liberty Quarry will impact the air in our Community with dust.
Fact: Granite monitored the air emissions from the Rosemary’s Mountain Quarry in Fallbrook for 12 months in 2009. The results show, that even at distances of only 600 ft from the quarry that levels of dust and crystalline silica were less than the state standards. Granite has offered to set up air monitoring stations in the City, including the closest public school, prior to construction.
Tired
1:12 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
You are trying to shove it down our throats by trying to use the argument that we are UnAmerican or did you forget that? I notice you said nothing about that in your repsonse. It truly goes to show when someone is confronted with there own facts they dont respond. You talk about environmentalists and the desert the same goes for here. You try and use grand things like taking down the I-15? What a joke. But then again add the traffic from the quarry and it will really make a commute anywhere impossible. But then again you must not get on the freeway like the rest of us do. Thanks for your trying to shove your quarry into our area but no thanks. "
carcinogenic risks are just below significance thresholds. In order to ensure that these risks stay
below a significant level and to further mitigate operational emissions, additional measures
should be added prior to adopting the Final EIR" from your own report. Read the report and learn something before you post it. They are asking for more things to be done. Thanks for the info that doesnt help your own cause. Wow you really stepped in it there!
sherry
1:39 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
I guess you are for off-shore drilling too, thats sooo safe too??????? Just ask anyone from Lousianna, they will tell you
sherry
7:30 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
Leroy, YOU are a LIAR. I think you are affiliated with the quarry. Why add to anymore pollution than the 1-15? Two wrongs will never make a right. We do not need a querry in Temecula, Period. Hundreds of thousands of cars everyday on the 1-15, Leroy??? You are an idiot. Unfortunately we must drive cars, fortunately we do not have to have a quarry
Leroy Achoy
1:05 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
By the way Tired your comment about eyes is a racist insult directed at me.
Tired
1:16 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
LOL Wow. A racist comment? Since when is a potato a race? I will gladly listen to your insane way of thinking to come up with how that is racist! Thank you for the laugh. I really needed to wipe the tears away from my eyes in your remark. You have been reading too many self help books. Or are you trying to become a lawyer? Dont quit your day job.
Leroy Achoy
1:18 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
The Rose Institute of State and Local Government at Claremont Mckenna College analyzed Granite Construction's EIR.
Dr. Ralph A. Rossum is the Director of the Rose Institute of State and Local Government .
Dr. Ralph A. Rossum is on the payroll as a board menber of:
Academy of Tribal & Local Government
http://www.atlgonline.com/our-faculty.html
Gee no bias in his report is there?
Tired
1:30 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
This is getting boring now. If you want to look for bias you can find it in EVRY person. We are all biased in way way or another. You are looking for something to argue about. You stuck your foot in your mouth by saying we were unamerican since we do not support the quarry. By your own logic it isnt true so be gone! You can not put up links and draw inference from it. Show facts not innuendos. You put up a report that says changes have to be made thinking no one will read it. Then you pull the Race card. By the Way I looked every where and I cant find where a potato is a race so there. Go back to your hole in the wall and leave us alone Bye bye for now!
Leroy Achoy
1:32 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
I can't wait until the quarry opens!! My son can apply for a job, get off unemplyment and hopefully save his home and feed his family. I'm sure thousands of other Temecula residents feel the same way.
Tired
1:40 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
Good for your son in looking for a job. But let me ask you this. Is it safe to put all your eggs in one basket? Is this the only type of work your son can do? Even if they would get the approval for the quarry tomorrow it would still take a year or more to start up with any kind of jobs. So in the mean time will it save your sons house? Will it feed his family now? Sorry for your sons hardship but thinking the quarry will save it is a pipedream
sherry
1:40 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
LOL, and YOU think your son will get a job at the quarry, LOL, think again
Leroy Achoy
1:56 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
I support the Liberty Quarry!
I support job growth for the Temecula Valley!
I support America, God bless America, the land of opportunity!
Jerry Simeon
3:43 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
Leroy, your argument has been registered..... I've spent more than a lifetime in various forms of engineering. Putting it all together has nothing to do with what is wrong for this region of California. The quarry is damaging beyond your knowledge and the expertise of the people you cite as experts. This has happened many times before across our country. Why here? After-the-fact apologies and lawsuit damages are not acceptable any more. Why haven't you referred to the reports of the specialists and professionals that the city of Temecula appointed and others who did studies and have lived here.... My experience too is that EIRs can be designed to say and focus on whatever you want them to for a specific purpose... We are talking about PEOPLE, our HOMES, and ENVIRONMENT in this immediate area. The rest of America has the right to defend themselves also if they choose to. Believe me.... many choose NOT to for their own fears and personal reasons.
Jerry Simeon
3:47 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
Postscript: Where is Issa on this?? Has anyone contacted him? Has he any input?
David Shisler
5:10 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
why is Leroy Achoy comparing Rosemary's Mountain Quarry to Liberty Quarry, Rosemary's Mountain is hardly operational, couple trucks a day, no asphalt plant yet.
There is nothing to compare with the two except one is going to be way larger. Liberty Quarry will get its worker from other quarries in the area that will be cutting back, no gain. If you own land up there, down goes your property values, who wants to live next to a quarry.
Cynthia Myers
5:14 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
The quarry should not be placed where they've proposed it, just upwind of the entire population of the Temecula Valley. It would create only a few dozen jobs, but it would eliminate many more than it would bring. It will create a traffic nightmare directly in the path of many Temecula Valley commuters, and a health hazard that will blow over the valley every day for decades. It is un-American to think that a single big, rich corporation can jam this unwanted project down the throat of a community that is almost entirely united in opposition, with the exception of a few cranks who throw about charges that people who care about their farms and homes and neighborhoods and communities and health are un-American.
Jerry Simeon
5:22 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
Call the next Marine you meet "UnAmerican" and see what happens!!!
Leroy Achoy
5:22 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
I support the Liberty Quarry!
I support job growth in Temecula!
I support America, God bless America, the land of opportunity!
Popeye
5:18 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011
You support job loss
Leroy Achoy
5:37 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
Area at Liberty Quarry is zoned:
R-R
SECTION 5.1. USES PERMITTED
(15) Mining operation that is subject to the California Surface Mining and Reclamation Act of 1975 is a permitted provided that the operator thereof holds a permit to conduct surface mining operations issued pursuant to County Ordinance No. 555, which has not been revoked or suspended.
Maybe you should have done research BEFORE you bought your house, if you do not want to live in an area that is zoned for mining operations.
Cynthia Myers
5:40 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
That's right, most of the drinking water for our Marines and their families on Camp Pendleton comes directly from the Santa Margarita River, just a few hundred yards downhill from this giant industrial pit mine site. THAT'S un-American.
p.s. Leroy, your either your keyboard is stuck or you are out of logical arguments.
Cynthia Myers
5:53 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
And for someone who played the "race card" in a comment above, from what I've read in your other comments you sound surprisingly racist! "Welfare queens?" "Gang Banger kids?" Go away, Leroy, and take Granite Construction with you.
Leroy Achoy
8:29 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
I am in support of the Liberty Quarry!
I support job growth in the Temecula Valley!
I support America, God bless America, the land of opportunity!
Popeye
5:13 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011
Typical tea party stance in destroying America
Leroy Achoy
8:35 pm on Sunday, August 7, 2011
We support the Liberty Quarry!
I support jobs in the Temecula Valley!
I support America, God bless America, the land of opportunity!
Jerry Simeon
7:38 am on Monday, August 8, 2011
Everyone knows that for well over a century the Indians have been forced to survive in the usually harsh environments called reservations under extraordinary pressure. Granite thinks that there is no value in this or the efforts of the aboriginal people of America to do all possible for the survival of tribes, culture, and traditions. They cite that the Indians should lay down unconditionally without further investigating and challenging their "beneficent" projects and efforts to destroy natural habitats and pristine environment because they provide jobs for a few people.... and the residents of Temecula should do the same??
I have worked on MANY major construction and engineering projects for Major companies (including Granite's projects) all over California. A great many of the employees have been out-of-the-area, out-of-state, and even out-of country which does nothing for the economy of surrounding communities or the state of California.
(I apologize for this complaint that I have been voicing for many years since exiting the office environment and working on-site.)
Leroy Achoy
9:07 am on Monday, August 8, 2011
Jerry are we suppose to feel sorry for the Indians? Ask Pechanga girl how they treat their own.
The following was posted in the Patch:
Pechanga girl
8:12am on Tuesday, June 7, 2011
I have my Certificate of Degree of Indian Blood that states I'm Pechanga (dated 1977), my Mother was on the original enrollment list at Pechanga, my family has attended Pechanga meetings before we were a Federally Recognized tribe, my family received the Federal Judgement fund because we belonged to the Pechanga Band of Luiseno Mission Indians, my GG Grandmother was on all the census records at Pechanga before allotments, and my GG Grandmother was an original Allottee on Pechanga.
Now......how can Pechanga say I don't meet the criteria to be a member? We were SCREWED and our identities were STOLEN!!!
Our paperwork is better than most at Pechanga! We can trace our lineage to the 1700's with more proof that we are from Temecula before there was a Pechanga Reservation!
Popeye
8:28 pm on Tuesday, August 9, 2011
I see that you are very discriminating against the Indians.
Renee
8:59 am on Thursday, August 18, 2011
Oh Leroy, Leroy,Leroy
I know exactly who you are,and you are a liar, you are associated w/ Liberty, lying Leroy is very unamerican doncha know? You are sitting there laughing, knowing your comments make no sense,hence you repeat yourself over and over , just like your boss told you to spin it, Karmas a bitch Leroy
Leroy Achoy
9:58 am on Thursday, August 18, 2011
Renee,
I do not work for Granite Constrution.
I have watched as the greenhorns like you that have come into what was once a rural peaceful place and turned it into another Orange County with Crime and Druggies. Your a fool to assume I work for Granite Constrution. Believe what you will. Just because I'm for it doesn't mean I work there. Talk to Jerry about working their, he has more experience than I do on that subject. Your an idiot!
Popeye
3:40 pm on Monday, August 8, 2011
Your s typical teaparty loser.
Popeye
4:00 pm on Monday, August 8, 2011
Granite has numerous labor violations.
Leroy Achoy
7:20 pm on Monday, August 8, 2011
I support the Liberty Quarry, it will bring over 100 jobs that will pay for $65-130K!
I do not see any other companies bringing over 100 high paying jobs into the area.
I support America, God bless America, the land of opportunity!
Popeye
8:24 pm on Tuesday, August 9, 2011
It will bring min wage jobs $3.00 to $5,00 hour jobs
Fred Bartz
7:30 pm on Monday, August 8, 2011
Leroy Achoy - I suggest you check Granite's own air monitoring data from August 2010 for Granite's Rosemary's Mountain Quarry and you will find that they exceeded the state standard for Crystalline Silica.
Leroy Achoy
9:42 pm on Monday, August 8, 2011
I do not see the Pachanga Indians send money to help the Pine Ridge Oglala Lakota Sioux.
■Recent reports vary but many point out that the median income on the Pine Ridge Reservation is approximately $2,600 to $3,500 per year.
■39% of the homes on the Pine Ridge Reservation have no electricity.
■There is an estimated average of 17 people living in each family home (a home which may only have two to three rooms). Some larger homes, built for 6 to 8 people, have up to 30 people living in them.
■Over 33% of the Reservation homes lack basic water and sewage systems as well as electricity.
Popeye
8:33 pm on Tuesday, August 9, 2011
You shouldn't hate. Pechanga because the donates alot of money to your children schools and churches in Temecula. More than Granite would ever contribute except bad air and unemployment.
Jerry Simeon
8:15 am on Tuesday, August 9, 2011
Leroy, I commend your Spirit and Bravado and I understand the depths of your wounds. At Wounded knee, "We buried our hearts" (do you know this meaning?) and Our Chiefs proclaimed "We would fight no more forever" for the sake of everyone, not just our own open wounds.
The citizens of Temecula and the bordering regions support the efforts of the City of Temecula. We welcome the efforts of everyone including your nemesis the Pechanga Indians along with other tribes. We are thankful too that they are showing their heart an concern in the support of this effort.... Vivat Jesus!!
Sarah
8:21 am on Tuesday, August 9, 2011
Leroy, what is Granite paying you? Your arguments on multiple posts are full of hateful rhetoric, lies, smoke and mirrors. I fail to understand how most of your talking points stack up against the FACTS. FACT: the vast majority of Temecula residents DO NOT WANT THIS MINE. FACT: Granite has repeatedly lied in their data on truck movement, air quality, etc. FACT: You watch too much Fox News where they practice the tactic of saying a lie over and over until people start to believe it is truth.