I had blogged the The "fight is not over." "The 800# gorilla sits where it wants to" Granite's lobbyist will descend en masse on Riverside legislators with "Big bucks."
The thing now is to keep your eye on Riverside...............

Now Granite will kick their recent lobbying and PR machines into high gear:
http://sacredskysacredearth.com/2011/08/23/no-does-not-mean-yes/

Unwelcomed guests are so pathetic... these guys seem to not care at all.

Isn't that what riverside planning commission is used for? Analyzing technical data........ what about the State bill

We need to wake up the sleeping giant AB 742.

It would be real nice in a "Democratic" society if it still is....to hear the voice of the people...Granite we don't want you dusting our air!

For the county supervisors to approve this after the commission voted it down would be political suicide.

Perhaps someone could clarify but am I missing something here? From what I understand it doesnt really matter what the board of supervisors say because the Pechunga Indians are about to get a law passed (already initiated) that will protect the land from any projects of the such. "In August, the tribe sponsored legislation that would allow it to prohibit the permitting of rock quarries on land near its reservation borders, a swath that includes acreage tied to the tribe's creation story and the wellspring of the Santa Margarita River.
That legislation was approved by the state Senate's Committee on Natural Resources and Water and moved to the senate's Rules Committee, but it's not expected to be moved from there until at least January.

Tvor-Pacificmarlin,
It is said that those who boast the most have the least to spend. I would like to add that those who think because this fight is over you people in Orange Coats, the Fight has just began, so you and the Tribe, keep you eyes open, be sure to watch your back side. This is a battle for the free enterprise world, and those who take stimulus to exist will find what it means to really loose. When the County of Riverside will be able to see how you won, your fight is over. The Tribe is betting once again their money will prevail and kick out Granite. The Free Society and those of us that want good products for less are coming. Keep you night guards allert. Regarding the statement, "County Supervisors' are approaching political suicide sound like TVOR and his group have the stuff to do something about it. I see that the threats are still coming from those in ORANGE, as the only way that they can win. We'll see you in Riverside.

Rich is back trying sell us bag of faulty goods. Rich, I can propose better sites for a Gravel pit if you are so incline to have one or you can move to one that is already exists if you need a job that bad. It's not free enterprise you want promote but destroy democracy.

Current zoning is vague? Change of Zone request for a portion of the site (110 acres) from Rural Residential (R-R) to Mineral Resources and Related Manufacturing (M-R-A) to accommodate the location of the operation where the process plants will be located.

What's vague about this except it's not currently zoned for mining so it requires a change.

Ahh Richard.....this is not a battle of the free enterprise world. This is a battle of a large company coming into our community and wanting to destroy it for their benefit. Talking about money? You don't think Granite uses their money to lobby for their cause? Give us all a break.

This pristine area behind the ridge from the freeway is exceeding noise limits already? There's nothing but dirt here? I have news for Reuther - PEOPLE LIVE BACK HERE, and moved here for the peace and quiet and rural atmosphere! I'm elated that Granite's zoning change and request to exceed noise limits were denied. Now on to make sure the BoS agrees with their own Planning Commission.

How long are we going to continue to have to fight this Quarry crap. The majority of people in the area don't want the quarry. The good thing the quarry will bring to Riverside County is money. If we base everything on money, then in my opinion we have lost our democracy.

http://californiawatch.org/environment/stimulus-funds-aiding-companies-fined-pollution-accused-fraud hey Rich read this link

Curt McDowell, Let's stop and look at the Big Corporations your referring to. Let's see, the first that I remember is; International Rectifier, Hudson Corporation, Pechanga Tribal Casino, and don't forget, the Auto mall. I think that in order to have these big businesses it takes a large amount of money, or as you say the Large Corporations. What I see is that you folks don't have a clue as to what it takes to bring prosperity to an area. Like I said we'll see!

Popeye,
I know that your a person of genius, let's just pick a place that can equal this type of aggregate, then let's see how long it is going to take to get permitted, and then let's see how many Orange Coats show up and attempt to stop or slow the process. Ya, just go any where as you claim, it is just like that. Smart!

Rich I love your argument because it's just so easy to respond. IR is a manufacturer of power semiconductors. You want high paying jobs that doesn't pollute our air quality? You can bring these companies into Riverside all day long! Don't forget Abbott labs Rich. Of course if you put a quarry in this area these types of companies will start to leave.

Sending the decision to Riverside is a scary proposition, What do they care what happens down here on the border of San Diego? Riverside's air quality is already terrible, and the traffic is horrendous. If this passes despite the opposition of the people and a 4-1 vote against by the planning commission it will be a travesty. Granite has already targeted the board of supervisors, and their "war room" is no doubt in full gear. Lobbyists , PR Firms, and Cold hard cash are great weapons against the will of the people. Please put a stake through the heart of this misguided project. Go away, The Citizens and tax payers of Temecula, Murrieta, Rainbow, and Fallbrook do not want it! Go away!!

Rich, I am confused by your politics in pushing this Quarry? You are confusing your city (Hemet) economics with our city. I would make statement that Temecula citizen economics are different than yours and Riverside County should be able to recognize the differences. Temecula is trying to promote a pharmaceutical Industry. The Mine Industry would in our area would deter our goals.

Granite Construction Incorporated has begun its spin on the Riverside County Planning Commission’s action to decline to approve the proposed aggregate quarry near Temecula. GCI sees this action as involving minor issues over project operation scope and noise pollution limits. GCI ignores here that the RCPC also did not find a "factual basis" for "a statement of overriding considerations." This statement would allow some negative project impacts owing to the project benefits outweighing these impacts. Note GCI's own words, however, that the "project's been studied to death." Yet the studies failed to persuade RCPC to give the proposed quarry a green light. With the same information, a GCI appeal to the Riverside County Supervisors could produce a similar result. The supervisors count votes. Local political action may sway these decision-makers to follow the RCPC.

Hey Loomis - how about a nuclear waste disposal site and a sewage treatment plant. Yeah, man! Let's bring 'em in. "Free Society" my ass. If you showed up at a party uninvited and no one wanted you there, I bet you would stay anyway.

Rich, you seem rather arrogant. I think I'll join the fight. As you said...see you in Riverside.

Popeye,
Good job. Lets be a little more intelligent and see the difference. The economics in you City stinks of over-draft. It is in the many millions of dollars overdraft, or let's say that your City over spent and now are looking for a Stimulus support from Government to save you from being without. Smart. So lets talk about the International Rectifier Company. I remember after the building was built that the building was empty for a long period of time. Once again, economic stress. It takes a hell of lot of money to get anything started then comes the environmental issues, the animal rights folks, and those who are against Granite groups because of the Carbon Foot print from too many trucks. So let me just caution, we can't have all wineries, and casino's, and it isn't possible to have San Diego type air each day because of the Silica that comes off the highway every mile each day.

The last I looked Temecula is in pretty good economic health and trying to get better. Our schools are probably the best in Riverside County. The housing market took a hit like everybody and that's another topic. I never been to Hemet because I do not know what it has to offer. Everything I need is in Temecula to allow my wife to not work and take care of the children in a safe and clean environment. The American dream..

Let's not forget Professional Hospital Supply (PHS), one of the nation’s oldest regional suppliers of medical and surgical supplies, Millipore (biopharmaceutical manufacturing), Golden West Biologicals (distributor of essential raw materials), Isomedics (sterility industry leaders), FFF Enterprises (biopharmaceuticals distributor), and SurgiCount Medical, Inc. (computer assisted safety-sponge system) have continued to grow and thrive in Temecula.

Yea sure let's add a quarry.

And before you say it again....We all know we need quarries to build and maintain the roads I think what we're are saying is tha this is the worst location ever. You pick location AWAY from populated areas so you don't impact the air and noise where people LIVE and the ecological reserve. Not to mention the sacred rights Pechanga has.

Apparently, there are those Liberty/Granite supporters that still do not understand the terms "beating a dead horse" and "throwing good money, careers, etc. after bad". The county of Riverside has, since I can recall, long been ultra-conservative and slow to progress. We are still without our own TV station for counties in this region. We are still listening to L.A. news. Temecula is at the leading edge along with a few other cities in the region. Believe it..... there is life..... and great promise for this community beyond the scope of Granite's archaic perspective.

Industries in Temecula
High-tech manufacturing
Biomedical/Biotech
Health technology/manufacturing
Telecommunications
Electronics
Semiconductor
Manufacturing
Retail
Tourism
(We don't want open pit mines, sorry)

Curt McDowell,
I am no different that anyone else, I read the paper. It was stated in the P/E that there is a short fall of the budget that Temecula has. I am just the messenger that's all. The people of Temecula should be proud having a $85 million dollar office in Old Town, that shows real promise of over spending I would think.

COMBINING BALANCE SHEET as of March 31, 2011
Total Assets were $61,406,307
Total Liabilities were $14,869,834
Total Fund Balances $46,536,473

Was the paper American journal of Proctology? I'm done with you Loomis. I feel sorry for you.
Looks pretty good to me.

Thanks Curt. I have no idea where Rich gets his information. Hemet must have a bustling economy. Do people wish to move from Temecula to enter the sanctuary of Hemet where Rich lives? They are in the forefront in fixing the economy.

Curt & Popeye,
How do you like it when you hear bad news? I hope it is true that Curt is through with me, as I am through with him. Again, I read the papers as all of you must do. I will not take credit for any mistakes that I read, nor will I pass your thoughts to your people who probably should already know this. so, have a good day and as I said, we'll see ya in Riverside.

Curt,
I don't need your math, I am an outsider remember, those are your statements. I am just the messenger. I will hope that what was in the paper isn't true, and that your figures are more accurate according to what they said. The reason, people of poverty, which you have a few are being shorten for what they have been given before the crunch hit.

The PR machine is already spewing out false information. Tell the lie often enough and eventually people will start to believe it. Especially gullible ones. If the EIR is so good then why did Granite not want to have the Cultural Resource Survey authors at the hearings? Why did Granite have the consultant with Jones and Stokes who wrote the original reports fired because they didn't like what she wrote?

The EIR is a totally biased document, not designed to evaluate the impacts of the project but to justify and advocate for the project. The County must change its procedures so that applicants can not prepare their own environmental documents. The County must be in control of the studies to ensure that they are unbiased.

I'll try again, or else I will assume that EVERYONE on the board is wasting their energy with emotion rather than thinking and talking logically about the prognosis of this project.

Perhaps someone could clarify but am I missing something here? From what I understand it doesnt really matter what the board of supervisors say because the Pechunga Indians are about to get a law passed (already initiated) that will protect the land from any projects of the such. "In August, the tribe sponsored legislation that would allow it to prohibit the permitting of rock quarries on land near its reservation borders, a swath that includes acreage tied to the tribe's creation story and the wellspring of the Santa Margarita River.
That legislation was approved by the state Senate's Committee on Natural Resources and Water and moved to the senate's Rules Committee, but it's not expected to be moved from there until at least January.

Scott: The prognosis involves several variables not easily weighed or defined for purposes of peering into the future with any confidence. We also have a couple unmovable objects in play: GCI and the Pechanga tribe now sit "at loggerheads" by testimony of Chairman Macarro. GCI wants its proposed quarry on land Pechanga wants left unmolested by the GCI project. Neither party appears ready to budge. The County Supervisors may follow the lead of the planning commission, and say No to the proposed quarry. In that event, the project proponent, GCI, would likely sue the county to overturn this unfavorable outcome by court ruling. The State Legislature, seeing the inability of the parties to negotiate a satisfactory agreement could change the law, to protect the Pechanga sacred site from the proposed quarry. The law already protects such and similar places from other mining activity, and so would only need amending to add aggregate mining. Time will tell.

Anotherview,
There was a time not to many years ago that the applicants did do their own EIR's. The problem seem to be that the big company home builders were a little lax and possible didn't include all the correct information. Thus they got approved, and then the folks didn't like what they were hearing so then the direction was in order to have an EIR but it had to be done professionally.. So what is it that you want? I personally feel that Granite had the best you could hire, and they did a great study. It is to bad that the commissioners were swayed by some who thought differently. So, here again, you get what you pay for, so go for it.

Not my numbers Rich. It's called basic research. Here's the link to the financial statements posted by the City of Temecula so when they hear something they can actually look for themselves.

http://www.cityoftemecula.org/temecula/laserfiche.htm

Pacific

Pacificmartin,
I realize that reasons for an EIR is for the protection of the people and their environment. What I am saying is that it doesn't seem to make a difference if it effects you more than anyone else you just bitch more and get more to go along. But what is left out is the work done by professionals to create these EIR's. This is what I am talking about. In the years gone by it seemed that people were listed in the reports. In all the hearing that I attend it seemed that the Tribe and animals were the most mentioned. The people at the hearings didn't even give a damn about the work done by GCI. The complaints were mainly from SOS, the Animal group, and the Tribe. Getting back to the EIR, I don't think now after the hearings are over, that you really want the applicants to prepare their own EIR, and not hire professionals.

anotherview,
I will attempt to restate what I had hope would come out correctly. It was discussed by someone that individual applicants do their own EIR. My thoughts are that many years ago that was so. But now as times have changed it needs to have a selected engineering firm to do this type of work. I will say however, GCI does have a well known firm that did the EIR. That is all I was trying to say.

anotherview
That is were we can disagree. I feel that the EIR was well done that GCI paid for. It covered most of the things that a study must cover. I realize that there are those who would rather put their own opinions in and respectfully reject what GCI had done. Again, the rub is that this is their personal impute once again. I was please with their explanations and how the track of the animals had been logged, and as for this being virgin land there will be animals that travel on the land mostly because they have been moved over from some other property. Animals will adjust. But, let me say, animals are smarter than we give them credit. They will adjust to the new ways and will keep growing, and yes they might get a road kill now an then. But we the people are smarter than most animals, and we apply what we think is best about what they need then they do and that is my rub. I felt that EIR covered this aspect very good. I was appalled however at the cross overs, and the amount of money that the Federal Government spent when building I-15. We don't need freeways built for the animals movement. I will say perhaps a tunnel would be adequate however. So, thank you for your thoughts, and I hope someday this is going to solve the needs for those who building and need what Ganite is wants to offer.

You people who are writing regarding the "will of the people" must be smoking some bad stuff. To Granite, the "will of the people" doesn't count. You mean as much to them as the tar they put down on the road. They will get whatever they want, and will do whatever they wish. Their lobbyist with fistful of cash are streaming in to Riverside trying to gain influence by buying it. You need to hire lawyers who are not beholding to Riverside (or work there) and contact the Department of Justice. Mention the maltreatment of the Pechanga Indian burial sites,and you can be assured the Justice Department will be down in Temecula/Riverside before you can blink an eye.

All your blathering and arguing amongst yourself as to who will win doesn't amount to a hill of beans. Do something that will affect the outcome of Granites pressure---and get rid of Granite one and for all!

Ed Krinsky,
I don't know you. Have you ever been to the Granite's office in Murrieta? You will be welcomed by the friendlies people in any office. Their desire is the same as yours. About the statement you made, saying that they don't have "the will of the people" in mind, I take offense of that. I will always remember how they have attempt to contact the locals and the different Cities, and telling each city what they were attempting to do. I know as I have been in a couple of those meeting. I have never been to the meeting of the opposition so I can't make any judgements. I know that they care for all of us, and the people that work for them will attest the same. And for you to state that they may be smoking the bad stuff sounds as if you have had experiences and know how people react. So let me say, you and the Tribe seem to have enough money to buy what it is that your wanting, and that is to eliminate private industry from your back yard.

These guys are full of it !! This entire insipid display of constipated banter is an insult to the people of this city and region who have provided more than enough engineering, scientific, environmental, ecological, logical and legal information to satisfy any right thinking intellectual. The Demographics of the region too have been surveyed and expressed their desires. Your attempt to "muddle" the facts and "confiscation" of land rights through misdirection and mockery of the populace with every sort of vaguery is an insult.

anotherview,
I am real sorry that you have so much hatred about private industry people and GCI in proticular. It is apparent that the Tribe has conditioned the community with their greatness and all that you can talk about themselves. I don't agree. I have to many past thoughts of how they were many years ago, and I am glad that they have partially come to realize that they too are part of Temecula, to the point that they can sue them for whatever they believe Temecula has done bad toward them. Real good relationship shown there-huh? But you continue to tell me that GCI did do well in convincing the City people and did not sell the community. What is there that is for sale? I thought that this is a society of one and that we are all striving for the best that we can be. But I am sorry, to me the Tribe seems to have an idolatrous opinion of themselves. The rest of the World is going to step aside for whatever it is that they claim and do. To me that isn't for a good environment or a great and wonderful place to have a family, as so many have said.

Ray Johnson,
You and others are continually putting out the information the PR machine from GCI is spreading false super-spun information trying to convince the people of a false doctrine that they came up with. They did what you or anyone would have done. They hired the experts which is what they are supposed to do and the experts have come up with an EIR. It seems that the RCPC was told to by a few, and so their opinions were slanted somewhat from when they first received the large EIR book pertaining to the report. Let's talk about spin. I feel that the group that Pechanga brought in the Claremont Study group, and to me they didn't have it at all complete as well. So you see--both sides have their oppositions, to what you say GCI is spinning. They didn't write their EIR, they paid dearly for that report, and it can't be personally adjusted. So, why can't you see there are people like you that will do anything to stop what doesn't look good or smell good that have their attitude's "NIMBY".

Rich wrote:
"I know that they (GRANITE) care for all of us, and the people that work for them will attest the same".
You cant be serious?.....................are you???

Rich, I don't understand why you are so intent on helping Granite impose this giant scar on our community. Do you live next to a nuclear waste dump and have a serious case of "misery loves company" or do you work for Granite or have hopes of snagging one of the handful of jobs they're dangling as a lure? I don't understand what you hope to gain by hurting our community despite overwhelming local opposition.

Scott,
What is it that you don't understand about serious? Have you taken the time and talked to their employees as I have? This is a company that has an employee list of 1,200 people. I am sure that even you will find people at the Casino that don't like Macarro as well. But I have been pleasured to have met quit of few of their employees. I really want to say, those who are stationed and work out of Murrieta are beautiful people and will help you with many of your requests were possible. So you need to as you say get serious. It is impossible to determine what a person is without first knowing all about them. Something that you folks don't understand.

(Scott throws off the gloves)
Rich,
First, and I am not surprised that I have to clarify but I am not talking about the men and wemon who are trying to feed their families and pay their bills, but rather Granite, the business as a whole...........dont get ridiculous.
Secondly, if my children grow up and possess the same naivity or the poor ability to discern as you and the supporters of this project possess, I will have failed as a father...................serious.

Long ago, if if I may say, ladies and gentlemen, I found a civil dialog serves all parties.

Anotherview, That is a brilliant observation. so shall we all begin? Thanks for the insight.

Ignoring the potential for economic progress that helps to even slightly pull us out of this recession is American and capitalistic suicide. You democrats continue to pretend to have the right to preserve rocks but haven't the intelligence to protect your childrens future while you throw them to the provebial socialist lions that dictate which rocks have native honors. I pity the dictatorial future your inheritants will surely endure while you smile away your final days glorifying yourselves in what you have not taken the time to think through. When will you understand saving nature isn't in your power and the freedom that you abuse today handcuffs your childrens future?

When will the uninformed Fantics in this country understand that preservation of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness along with the other inalienable rights preserved in the U.S. constitution are NOT political, emmotionally based issues?? They were well thought out and initiated by the most intelligent people of the time 235 years ago. As a result, we stand at the head of the table of world powers and economic leadership. We can go forward together or fight like dogs over the scraps and carnage of the previous administration..... Or maybe you're not old enough to remember??..... How convenient.

This quarry at this location will devastate me and my family economically. Why does the economic prosperity of Granite's shareholders outweigh the economic prosperity of me and my neighbors who lived here before Granite ever proposed a strip mine nearby? Why are Granite shareholders more important than the health and well-being of tens of thousands of businesses and residents in the Temecula Valley? Why do we waste time trying to reason with a few Granite trolls in this forum?

I think the trolls have value in that they help to create a dialogue that we would not otherwise have. Their presence also clues us in to the mentality of those who support the quarry, their rationale for doing so, and is a continual reminder that Granite Construction Corporation is not done with Temecula.

The fact that now both Native and non-Native Americans from the community are united in their desire and efforts to prevent this project and to protect the land should not be lost on Granite, their supporters, and politicians (of all levels of integrity). I think that this is a key point and needs to be reiterated as often as possible. Quality of Life issues are legitimate concerns for everyone: so is protecting our environment for future generations.

Help stop Liberty Quarry, protect Native American sacred sites, save the LAST wild river and LAST coastal wildlife corridor in Southern California. Let our elected officials know that you support these items by showing your support for AB 742: http://sacredskysacredearth.com/ab-742/

Pete Terezakis,
I would like to offer some thoughts of importance. I am familiar with the Native's sacred and cherished land. What I am a little concerned about is the legitimacy when announcing that the sit is sacred. They claimed it to be part of their secret map. It seemed that it took RCPC by surprise as well. What is this they claim that they need to have transparency. Once again, this isn't a way to gain any friends. Any thing that appears to be a hurtle is in fact just that. Now it is claimed that GCI is the people spurring on the SPIN, when all the time it has been they who have held back the information to declare this is their sacred grounds, and then having a Assembly person write a law at the eleventh hour to stop private industry for advancing to the next step of their desired site 5,000 feet from any reservation. Talk about a good neighbor policy, and a job killer, by any other name it stinks..

5:20pm on Monday, September 5, 2011

The Liberty Quarry project would destroy the LAST wild river and LAST coastal wildlife corridor in Southern California. The fact that it contains sites which are sacred to people who have inhabited those lands for 10,000 years is axiomatic and I respect that. Native American beliefs and customs are different than those of my Christian heritage; but not dissimilar from my forefathers belief system. Here is something else which I understand: All Creation is Divine.

It is time to re-examine our treatment of "undeveloped land" as well as Riverside County's outdated permitting process. The negative effects of eighteenth century attitudes toward our natural world is impacting us all and not in a good way. It is time for a change based on facts: not financial might.

http://sacredskysacredearth.com/ab-742/

If there is a "surprise" in any of this, it is Granite's continued indifference to the community - and the commissioners.

In terms of what "stinks," I'd consider the fact that Granite Construction received $29 Million Dollars of Federal stimulus money for work on on roads within the Navajo Reservation and has used $10 million attempting to subvert local government and in the process attempt to destroy sites sacred to the Pechanga Band of Luiseno Indians. ( http://projects.propublica.org/recovery/item/20110101/77973 )

Peter Terezakis,
I don't think that I know you but I will say that you sound like someone with a little knowledge. I have a question----do you really believe that what the quarry produces in the way of dust is going to make thousands of people in Temecula become real sick? Perhaps they need to move to clean air areas such as the beach or somewhere else. Likewise, I can't believe someone got signatures from all the doctors that signed this petition to say that some 40,000 people will be coming into their offices daily, all having some kind of respiratory problems cause from the quarry. I might be a little short on education, but I am not real dumb either. But if you really believe that story, (talk about spin) then I have a bridge that is for sale you in Temecula. I will ask the same as was asked of me regarding figures. Prove that Granite ask for and got $29 million in stimulus. If you can prove it to me then I will stop writing my rebuttals. That was contract dollars that any contractor would be paid to do work. I don't know if you have any questions about them doing work in Temecula, but they have done road work there as well, and so I am wondering, is that a stimulus as well. Again, this sounds like something Ray would tell people.

Hello Richard,

No, we do not know each other, and thanks for the compliment.

As you know your question of moving entire families is absurd. They are already here, because they have chosen to be here. The question you should be asking is why doesn't Granite take their gift of a gravel pit to a community that wants it (e.g. Indio, Bombay Beach, Brawley, Holtville)?

And just how sick is "real sick?" Like someone who needs oxygen to take shuffling steps across the room, or just so that can't quite make the track team?

Here's another rephrasing of your question for you to answer: "Given a choice, do you really believe that thousands of people should even entertain the possibility of having dust from a mining operation adversely affect the lungs of their babies, children, loved ones, seniors, themselves?"

No, Richard. I do not expect you to believe anything that any one else has to say that might differ from your point of view. But I am not buying Big Stones's EIR any more than I would buy Big Tobacco's advertising (http://lane.stanford.edu/tobacco/index.html). But that's just me.

I was wrong. We know about the 29 million re-distributed tax dollars that I said Granite received:
http://projects.propublica.org/recovery/item/20110101/77973
Turns out there are another 6 million taxpayer dollars that I neglected to mention:
http://californiawatch.org/environment/stimulus-funds-aiding-companies-fined-pollution-accused-fraud

Peter Terezakis,
The very lack of not having a aggregate location close, we the public are paying higher costs for asphalt, concrete, and anything that requires aggregate. In Temecula alone, in order to fix roads and bridges, etc. they have to have all trucking come down 1-15 from Corona, Lake Elsinore, or even Banning to get their products. This is added costs that we all have to pay. I realize that doesn't bother you but I don't like having that extra carbon foot print in our area caused by trucks driving at high speeds down the freeway. By the way, it seems to me this was the big issue with the folks in Orange wanting a disapproval of the quarry among other issues. Regarding the monies, I don't think you or anyone else is going to get the true amounts the Government spends. They can't even tell you what things costs.
The way in which you are referring to the dust created from the quarry sounds like we will have to use our car lights all the time. The amount of dust is no different than a farmer plowing his field. It is short lived.

anotherview,
I think that it doesn't matter what a person of any knowledge says your group seems to want to argue about it. So from my point consider the source and I will let it be. Good luck to all you who are the experts.

Granite manipulated the truck miles saved study to grossly overestimate the results. They assumed that all trucks would be coming from San Bernardino in spite of the fact that a previous study by them clearly indicated that 76% were coming from Corona/Lake Elsinore. They then jacked up the traffic levels to 5 to 12 times the actual levels. They then assumed that they would replace all these truck trips in spite of the fact that it would require over 2 times the possible production of the quarry. When real trip numbers are used, based upon a 2009 actual count, the quarry will actually increase the number of truck miles traveled and will dramatically the truck miles in the Temecula/Murrieta area.