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POLL: Will Chick-fil-A in Temecula be Affected by Anti-Gay Stance?

Chick-fil-A took a stand on gay marriage this week -- a trend that could be because of pressure from gay rights advocates.

Pressure from gay rights advocates may have led the top official of the fast-food chain Chick-fil-A -- which has a restaurant on Margarita Road in Temecula -- to take a public position on same-sex marriage.

This week Chick-fil-A President Dan Cathy said his privately owned company is against gay unions.

Chad Griffin, president of the gay right’s non-profit Human Rights Campaign, said in a released statement Thursday that Chick-fil-A "has finally come clean" after hiding in the closet.

“Chick-fil-A is headed by a man who is proud of his company’s anti-LGBT giving and has made some extremist statements concerning marriage equality. Consumers now have to decide if that’s the kind of company they want to give their money to,” the Human Rights Campaign statement read.

This week when the Chick-fil-A president declared his company’s “guilty as charged” position on gay marriage, he added, “We’re inviting God’s judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at Him and say we know better than You as to what constitutes marriage.”

Human Rights Campaign and other organizations like it have pressured top government officials and business leaders to state their positions on gay marriage and gay rights, claiming that voters and consumers have a right to know.

Human Rights Campaign currently hosts a website that includes a “Buyer’s Guide” that rates businesses and brands on equality practices. Out of a possible score of 100, Chick-fil-A received a zero from Human Rights Campaign.

Other local restaurants rated by Human Rights Campaign include Starbucks, which received a score of 95; McDonald’s scored 75; Burger King scored 55; Domino’s Pizza scored 35; Wendy’s scored 30; and Jack in the Box scored 15.

Click here to read more about Human Rights Campaign’s scoring model and how it rates other national businesses that have a local presence.

Scooter Pie July 24, 2012 at 03:03 PM
Your proud to eat at a restuant? Is that because chick fil-a serves up culinary masterpieces, or is it that your belifes are the same? You should be proud of your children or family members or friends when they achieve something great, not a restaurant that Serves up dry tasteless chicken products. My oppion is keep your politics and religion to yourself, serve you your crappy chicken with a smile and lets be happy :)
Scooter Pie July 24, 2012 at 03:09 PM
I've lived in temecula for over 16 years. I have never seen two men sucking face as you put it in all my time here.
Scooter Pie July 24, 2012 at 03:15 PM
Is it about time we retract the right for women to vote? Chew on that one a little while...
TheOtherGuy July 24, 2012 at 03:21 PM
Scooter Pie, you must not get around! Old Towne Temecula is a hotbed of same-sex-face sucking! Big time!! And if Chik-Fil-A is not allowed it's God given right to stand against this tide of perversion, there'll be all kinds o' face sucking going on, not to mention interspecies mating in the street between dogs and cats, maybe even in Widomar and Menifee which don't yet have their own Chik-Fil-A "restaurants."
Sam July 26, 2012 at 03:27 PM
I wish journalism was more neutral. "Anti-gay," vs. "pro-traditional marriage" shows bias, as does "anti-abortion" as opposed to "pro-life." Think for yourselves, people.
Another opinion July 27, 2012 at 06:48 AM
I do not believe in the bible, it is a good story of sorts, for the time. Basically, there is NOTHING anyone can do or say to convince me otherwise (it's been tried). That said, I guess the same can be said by anti-LGBT. Possibly until you meet someone, admire, give birth, or in the least, find genuinely kind, oh, and gay. They could be family....but your opinion (as is Chick-Fil-a-holes) is the red tape that prevents that individual from common laws.
TVOR July 27, 2012 at 06:54 PM
I think that lgbt people should have all of the same rights as every other citizen but, like any other special interest group, they should not have any special rights that give them preference over others. That was tried with affirmative action and it hurt our country greatly. No special interest organization should be able to bully and extort any company into embracing their agenda. I applaud Chick-fil-A for sticking to their guns, even though I don't agree with their position.
Temecula Bob July 27, 2012 at 09:19 PM
Chick-fil-A has some really tasty sandwiches. Their stance won't change my opinion on their delicious food. I think it's crazy that we're having a discussion about what people do behind closed doors anyway. People love each other. If they want to take it a step beyond a loving friendship in their bedroom, that's their business. I mean, really, bottom line is, this is about sex.
Moni Botts July 28, 2012 at 04:35 AM
We are not talking about what happens 'behind closed doors', we are talking about something that is a legal contract, which creates a public record. Everyone should and does have the same rights. Every man can marry any woman, and every woman can marry any man.
TheOtherGuy July 28, 2012 at 05:05 AM
Not quite: If you were a man who loved another man, you would not have that right. I assume you're a man, so think about it this way: Would it be equal rights if the law prohibited you from marrying the woman you loved? As you say, we're talking about a legal contract which creates a public record, NOT what people do (or don't do) behind closed doors. There is no logical reason to prohibit two competent adults from entering into such contracts with each other just because they are the same sex.
Net July 28, 2012 at 06:31 AM
Brooke Duncan Gay: how about you keep your sexual preference to yourself. We don't care if you're proud to be gay or straight (Softy).
5150 July 28, 2012 at 01:25 PM
Can two males produce a Human? How about two females? Its unnatural and perverted. Sickning too. If everyone were queer there would be no people.
LBV Collins July 28, 2012 at 02:32 PM
The ol’ “It’s Not Natural Sex, So They Can’t Get Married” argument, eh 5150? If you want to argue that our government should only allow people who engage in “natural” sex acts to be married, then I suspect just about NO ONE would be allowed to be married. For example: Fellatio is not a “natural” sex act, yet I venture to say that lots of married heterosexual couples have engaged it. Should the government nullify their marriages? Another example: Sodomy is not a “natural” sex act either, but I suspect there are plenty of married heterosexual couples who have engaged in that sex act, too. (Well, at least once.) I ask again, should the government nullify their marriages? Then, 5150, there’s your point that since homosexual acts can’t produce offspring, the government should therefore prevent homosexuals from marrying. But since the ONLY sex act that produces offspring is male-female vaginal intercourse, then aren’t you arguing that the government dictate that the ONLY sex act allowed by married couples is vaginal intercourse? Or worse, that it’s ONLY allowed if you’re trying to create offspring?
Dee July 28, 2012 at 05:54 PM
You're 100% on your comment. Most Americans are in favor of man-woman marriage only yet we continue to have the homosexuals shove their garbage down our throats. Civil unions aren't enough for them. Liberals, progressives, socialists, gays, etc. all are absolutely intolerant of anything that doesn't agree with them completely. Doesn't matter what people or the law says, GOD is the Creator & Judge. He says homosexuality is immoral & a sin.
LBV Collins July 28, 2012 at 05:57 PM
<sigh> Dee, just where does God say, "homosexuality is immoral & a sin?" (Enquiring minds want to know.)
TheOtherGuy July 28, 2012 at 10:07 PM
5150 -- You argue that marriage between two people who are incapable of producing offspring is "unnatural" and "perverted" and therefore should be prohibited. By your logic, the state would be compelled to deny marriage licenses for anyone who is infertile (vasectomy, hysterectomy, post-menopausal, etc.) Also, you make a completely illogical connection between allowing same-sex marriage and the disappearance of the human race: I assure you, if same-sex couples were allowed to marry, "everyone" would not suddenly become queer and stop reproducing. Lastly, you find gay sex "disgusting." To be perfectly honest with you, I find heterosexual sex disgusting. I won't make you have gay sex. Please make me to have hetero sex!
LBV Collins July 29, 2012 at 01:49 AM
Still waiting for your response, Dee. (Psst! Hey, Dee! Check out Leviticus 19:34. NO! Wait... I mean, check out Leviticus 18:22. NO!!! wait... I mean, check out Mark 12:31... ummm... I mean... ) Oh, hell... the Bible is so damn confusing! WHAT DOES GOD WANT US TO DO, DEE?!! (Enquiring minds STILL want to know.)
Temecula Tess July 29, 2012 at 07:02 AM
Oh yes....the conservative Christian movement is SOOO tolerant. LOL.... I find it completely amusing that the born-againers label proponents of marriage equality as "intolerant". Amazing. Do you have absolutely no insight into your own behavior? And the arrogance of saying you speak for God is completely incredible. I am sure some if you are the same people who fought the building of the Temecula mosque, callng our Muslims neighbors as terrorists. You folks give all Christians a black eye. Time to fall on your knees folks, and pray that the God of all of us takes the bigotry out of your hearts.
Temecula Tess July 29, 2012 at 07:02 AM
Oh yes....the conservative Christian movement is SOOO tolerant. LOL.... I find it completely amusing that the born-againers label proponents of marriage equality as "intolerant". Amazing. Do you have absolutely no insight into your own behavior? And the arrogance of saying you speak for God is completely incredible. I am sure some if you are the same people who fought the building of the Temecula mosque, callng our Muslims neighbors as terrorists. You folks give all Christians a black eye. Time to fall on your knees folks, and pray that the God of all of us takes the bigotry out of your hearts.
Melissa July 29, 2012 at 11:10 AM
Marriage is for one man and one women. This is a free country and people can say what they want. The owners of Chick fil a are not the ones doing the bullying and they have the freedom to say what they believe.
5150 July 29, 2012 at 01:40 PM
The point is - Is that it takes a male and female to sustain the human race, would this not be the Natural understanding of giving life. "Bill n Bob" will never be able to produce little jimmy. All they can ever do is make a mess. Cmon Man!
5150 July 29, 2012 at 01:50 PM
LBV your over thinking it, never said anything about the Feds, Sex with animals will be the next thing to come up in the future, it will be some groups new "rights". Or even possibly a group of people saying its ok for "brother and sister" to marry. Its the general anything goes, all is ok, thinking that is coming upon this world .Cmon Man!
5150 July 29, 2012 at 01:52 PM
Oh ya, keep the Government out of it, all they ever do is make a "Mess" of things too, especially the clowns we have running things now.
LBV Collins July 29, 2012 at 02:31 PM
"Marriage is for one man and one women." Really, Melissa? Says who? We're not "bullying" Chick-fil-A. We're standing up against their bigotry towards LGBTs. As for their right to say and believe what they want, I completely agree... they have that right. But where they cross the line with me is by supporting groups that enact laws which enforce bigotry... laws like the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA). [1] 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_Marriage_Act
LBV Collins July 29, 2012 at 02:49 PM
Hi 5150. You still haven't explained why we should pass laws that prevent "Bill n Bob" from marrying. You say because it's not "natural," or that they can't produce offspring. Neither argument makes me suddenly sit up in the middle of the night exclaiming, "Oh! I get it! NOW I know why LGBTs should not be allowed to get married!" I'm still waiting for you to explain why allowing LGBTs to marry is bad for our society. Our laws are intended to make life fair and safe, while also providing as much freedom as is reasonably possible so that each of us can live our lives the way we desire. That's why we have laws against rape and murder and stealing. But just exactly how does having a law like the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) make our society fairer or safer? Who are the potential victims we're trying to protect? [1] 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_Marriage_Act
LBV Collins July 29, 2012 at 03:10 PM
Hi 5150. I don't recall saying anything about "sex with animals" or "brother and sister" marrying in this thread. (It is a long thread, though. So maybe I did say it in response to someone's remark.) Here's my position on this subject: I'm not arguing that we adopt an "anything goes" philosophy. I simply think that no one who opposes same-sex marriage has presented a valid reason why we should not allow LGBTs to marry. I've patiently waited for someone... ANYONE... to present a bona fide reason why the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) law is needed. And I'm tired of waiting. DOMA should be repealed.
Paul Jones July 30, 2012 at 03:58 AM
You're awesome LBV Collins!! Way to take it to the bigots...they're going to hate regardless but it's nice to see you squashing idiocy one by one...Bigots are gonna bigot....they did it with womens rights, the blacks, inter-racial marriage, on and on... GOOD JOB/GOOD EFFORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ognir Rattsa August 01, 2012 at 05:28 PM
Ok, here is a spin no one has seen over this whole Chik-Fil-A business. Why? Why are we persecuting a company for stating it's constitutional right of freedom of speech. If you don't like thier policies, don't go there. While I am on the subject, I assume most people drive cars or rely on some form of public transportation. Cars and public transportation require gasoline and oil to operate and get us from point A to point B. Are you aware that much of our oil comes from OPEC nations and countries that exterminate homosexuals??? Why are these folks protesting the oil companies that accept oil from these countries? I guess it is just easier to pick on Christian folks than fighting a very real and bigger problem. Grow a pair. I dare you!!!
LBV Collins August 01, 2012 at 07:46 PM
Hi Ringo Starr… Oops! I mean, Ognir Rattsa… There are some problems with your points. First, this is not a “free speech” issue. It’s a civil rights issue. Cathy’s company donates millions of corporate dollars to anti-gay hate groups. [1] No one’s trying to stifle Cathy’s free speech. They want him to stop donating money to homophobic hate groups that are trying to pass anti-LGBT legislation. Second, we do not get most of our oil from OPEC. We get 85% of our oil from non-OPEC sources. Want to know where we get the bulk of our oil from? The good ol’ U.S. of A., which accounts for about 40% of our oil. (I doubt many conservative Republicans realize that.) Saudi Arabia only accounts for about 12%. [2] (I doubt many conservative Republicans realize that, either.) BTW: Here’s an interesting list of countries and their laws regarding homosexuals. [3] Homosexuality is illegal in a lot of countries around the world and, you are right, some do impose the death penalty. But what I find REALLY curious is that in a lot of those countries where homosexuality is illegal, only male homosexuality is illegal; female homosexuality is perfectly legal. (I guess a lot of homophobic men just can’t resist watching a little girl-on-girl action.) 1. http://huff.to/LglrZP 2. http://n.pr/HB19Zb 3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory
Ognir Rattsa August 01, 2012 at 08:10 PM
Hi LBV, You are right. It is a civil rights issue. Is it not a civil rights issue to express freedom of speech? Don't get me wrong, I agree with you on the civil rights issue and I stand corrected. That being said, Chik-Fil-A is not a publicly owned company. They can give money to whoever they want. No one is forcing anyone to eat at thier restaurants. If it were a publicly traded company, Cathy might be on the unemployment line and it might be a different story here. The best I can say and what I was trying to say is if you do not like thier politics, don't solicit thier business. Follow what I am saying? For example, the French experienced a downturn in thier economy with the "Boycott France" campaign started by Bill O'Reilly after 9/11. Trust me, boycotting works better than protesting. After a while if one whines so much, people tend to ignore the seriousness of the issue. When it comes to your stats of OPEC nations, excluding the 40% of oil generated in the USA, there are 60% of other nations (excluding Saudi Arabia) that produce oil and have serious human rights violations against homosexuals including execution. I feel that this is a bigger issue than someone slinging Chicken Sandwiches on street corners. I feel there are bigger issues affecting the gay community is all and that is one of many issues affecting this demographic. Please do not interpret my words as condescending. It is truly not my intent. Ringo...oops Ognir...lol

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