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Merits of Quarry Debated

Experts and citizens speak for and against the proposed quarry at a planning commission meeting Monday. Another meeting is set for Aug. 15.

A sea of people ready to voice their opinions against the quarry wore orange shirts in solidarity and filled Monday, which held the fourth planning commission meeting regarding the proposed quarry.

Topics being dicussed were mainly geological in nature and featured a range of speakers and conflicting reports.

The lengthy geology talks took up most of the morning and the meeting did not finish, despite lasting well into the evening.

The engineering firm Kleinfelder hired geologists to run tests on the proposed site to ensure the mine will not adversely affect water sources, vegetation or create earthquakes.

Audience members rumbled and applauded during the discussions while analysts stood at the podium and offered different explanations to questions posed by commission members.

The proposed quarry has been a hot button issue because residents are worried that the effects the mine would produce would be devastating to the health of Temecula citizens, air quality and property values. To read more, click .

“I live in Vail Ranch and the quarry would be in my direct view from my front yard. I look up now and see the Rainbow Gap and feel the breezes everyday,” citizen Eric Filsinger said.

A geologist hired by Kleinfelder explained that testing done on the geology around the proposed site indicates that water does not travel through the rock system, there is limited ground water at the site and the blasting would not create an earthquake hazard.

“Evidence from the site investigation shows an insufficient fracture system to transmit water. Furthermore the investigation demonstrated limited groundwater at the site,” Russ Keenan explained.

“Also, the United States Geological Survey stated that operating a mine and blasting events do not cause earthquakes,” Keenan said.

A nearby resident and hydrology specialist was called up to respond to the engineering spokesmen claims.

“I spoke to an arborist who is an expert on live oaks. That area is full of oak trees. Oak trees need anywhere from 200 to 700 gallons of water a day,” Howard Omdahl explained.

"The fact that there are Oak trees everywhere on that mountain indicates connectivity and that there certainly is water there,” Omdahl added.

Another expert said he debunked Granite Constructions claims, calling into question the timing of their water testing.

“The test only took place in mid-summer over a two-week period,” Dr. Kerry Cato said.

“They never attempted long-term in ground water level and activity and they force fitted the program to do what they wanted it to do,” Cato added. “I would have re-done the entire test.”

Local resident Kathleen Katz echoed those sentiments.

“These people aren’t local. When your are local you are in tune with the subtle things about the environment. We all know water flows up there and in the oddest places.”

“Many Temeculan’s moved here for the breeze that comes into our valley by way of the Rainbow Gap. That is right where the mine will be,” Katz said. “We moved here for the good air.”

The meeting ended without a resolution and a fifth meeting is scheduled for August 15 at 9 a.m. at the same location, Rancho Community Church.

Cynthia Myers July 20, 2011 at 06:41 AM
This property is zoned rural residential and many of us made financial investments in adjoining properties based on area zoning. Why do we have zoning designations and noise ordinances at all if a corporation with better political connections can just come along years later and request exemptions from local regulations? Granite's own experts admit that the damage to our air quality in the Temecula Valley cannot be mitigated. And they keep making the ludicrous argument that there will be no damage to the Santa Margarita Reserve just downstream of their quarry. Granite said they'll do whatever the Commission wants, but what we want is for Granite to just go away.
sherry July 20, 2011 at 04:34 PM
Temecula does not need more "dirt" in our air. Temecula!!! We do NOT WANT THIS QUARRY!!!!!!! We have to put up with noise from Camp Pendleton's practice bombings, helicopter's, and there is plenty of dust from winds blowing now. NO MORE DUST, NO MORE POLLUTION AND NOISE. GO AWAY QUARRY
Andy July 21, 2011 at 01:13 AM
I agee... No quarry. I will for sure move out of here if they approve the quarry.
Steve Duntmouth July 21, 2011 at 04:54 AM
Move out than, go to back to the OC where there is NO dirt in the air... If you hoping for the quarry to pay out big to the people trying to stop the movement, it is not going to happen, only Walmart does that.
TVOR July 21, 2011 at 05:04 PM
Nobody wants them to pay anything but the cost of finding another place to build their quarry.
Steve Duntmouth July 22, 2011 at 01:01 AM
Your an elitest if you think this type of industry does not fit in our commuity. I love the sence of entitlement our residents have.
TVOR July 23, 2011 at 05:42 PM
Perhaps you would be OK with it if I were to go near your home and start blowing things up, creating alot of dust and have trucks spewing exhaust into the air and pebbles all over the road to damage your paint and windshields. These people have no right to shove this project down our throats so they can make a profit. They need to take it away from a major population center or at least down wind.
Steve Duntmouth July 23, 2011 at 06:09 PM
Yes, profits is what makes this world go round, its the reason I wake up in the morning. This project is away from major population, Temecula is not major. Besides the EPA won't allow them to create dust, just like any construction site, they will be finned, you can not even wash your car without EPA on your ass these days. I like that comment about it being down wind, "down wind will make it someone elses problem not mine" ELITEST
Popeye July 25, 2011 at 12:31 PM
It is not elitist not wanting the Quarry. Majority of the people do not want this for their own reasons. If you do not like our city, you can move to a city that has a Quarry. This business is not needed in our area.
Greg August 15, 2011 at 06:21 AM
Duntmouth is naive. "The EPA won't let them create dust...they will be fined." Are you joking? Parking tickets carry bigger fines. The quarry will just chalk up their fines as the cost of doing business.
Leroy Achoy August 16, 2011 at 03:45 PM
I like the Temecula valley the way it was before the I-15 was built and all the houses and Malls were built. You all moved here in into your track house and brought with you crime and all the ills of city life. Here this is what it was like here before you newcomers all moved here and screwed up this beautiful place. http://www.temeculahistoricalsociety.org/history.html ("The site of the quarry is near where the world was created, and where the first person ever to die was cremated, according to Pechanga leaders") What are they smoking in their pipes? Where the world was created? What a joke.
Greg August 16, 2011 at 04:15 PM
And I like the Temecula Valley the way it was before Leroy and his ilk moved in. You should be more considerate and respectful of what others find sacred in this world.
Leroy Achoy August 16, 2011 at 05:37 PM
Area at Liberty Quarry is zoned: R-R SECTION 5.1. USES PERMITTED (15) Mining operation that is subject to the California Surface Mining and Reclamation Act of 1975 is a permitted provided that the operator thereof holds a permit to conduct surface mining operations issued pursuant to County Ordinance No. 555, which has not been revoked or suspended. Maybe you should have done research BEFORE you bought your house, if you do not want to live in an area that is zoned for mining operations.
Peter Terezakis September 15, 2011 at 02:15 PM
Well said, Greg.

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