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Temecula City Council Hopefuls Debate

Temecula City Council candidates battle it out in debate in Murrieta on October 10, 2012. Candidates are Paul Jacobs, Jamie White, Patrice Lynes.

Temecula City Council candidates Paul Jacobs, Jamie White and Patrice Lynes debated at Richie’s Diner in Murrieta Wednesday night (October 10th) at an
event hosted by the Temecula Valley Kiwanis Club.  Club Program Director Dave Landry indicated he had invited all candidates including incumbent Mike Naggar who indicated he would not attend and (Mayor) Chuck Washington who did not respond and was a no-show.  Candidate Walter Wilson was also missing in action.  Over twenty individuals were in attendance at a lively and informative two-hour plus meeting.

Patrice Lynes, a retired nurse and a Temecula resident since 1989 said she is running because the City Council does not listen to “we the people”. 

                Agenda 21

Her number one issue is something called “Agenda 21”, which she described as an attempt by the U.N. to impose its will upon the citizens of the United States, including the City of Temecula through a concept called Sustainable Development.  She indicated it requires a local Sustainability Plan that she says Mayor Chuck Washington brought to the Council and received 5-0 vote of approval.  She
is opposed to Agenda 21 because she says it takes away local control and
attempts to eliminate suburbia in favor of constructing multi-story/multi -use
buildings where there would be apartments on the upper floors and retail
businesses and other services on the lower floors.  Ms. Lynes maintains this is similar to a campus environment where everything is within walking or biking distance and the need for cars would be significantly diminished.

                Pro-Business

Says she is pro-business and plans to engage the local businesses and would introduce a business tax-holiday at certain times of the year to encourage more businesses to locate in Temecula. 

                Redevelopment (RDA)

She also pointed out that there is a $517 million RDA debt issue.  Ms. Lynes said she was told in a meeting it was only $100 million but State Controller John Chaing confirmed it was over $500 million.

Paul Jacobs is a retired psychiatric social worker who moved to Temecula in 1995.  He worked for   33 years for the CA Dept. of Developmental Services providing direct care to developmentally challenged people.  He has served on and chaired the Traffic and Safety Commission and served on and was President of his Homeowner’s association.

                Opposition to Liberty Quarry - Welcome to “Mine Country”, no longer “Wine Country”

Mr. Jacobs indicated he is the most vocal opponent of Liberty Quarry and the only one to request a criminal investigation of the approval process.  He said the city gave up local control in July 2010 when the Council gave up their Sphere of Influence over the area where the quarry is planning to locate.  This
spring the County Supervisors (BOS) voted 3-2 against the quarry and then Chairman of the Board John Taviglione voted with 2 other supervisors to approve the much-maligned Environmental Impact Report (EIR), even though it was a key document in the denial of a permit.  Once the EIR was approved by the Board of Supervisors, Supervisor John Benoit from the desert introduced an ordinance to fast-track the surface mines.    

                Public Safety

Mr. Jacobs spent two-hours with the Chief of Police getting his perspective of the issues facing policing in Temecula.  Paul served on the Traffic and Safety Committee including chairing the committee.  Jacobs believes a Police Station is needed within the City of Temecula (currently located out in French Valley) that could be located in the former City Hall.   He has questioned the estimates of cost to convert the facility as being politically motivated.  His suggestion is for a police station in Temecula, NOT a jail.  The jail would remain in French Valley.

                Open Government - Transparency and citizen participation

Another important issue is open government – transparency.  Mr. Jacobs lobbied for the council to expand the time for public comments from 2 minutes to 3 minutes (a 50% increase in time for a citizen to make his/her point during public comments).  After much opposition by the council, he finally convinced them, based on all other cities/county allowing for three minutes.  Another example was at the County Board of Supervisors where they started charging for parking last
February.  Jacobs pushed for free parking for disabled, which was granted, then for anyone with business before the board which was ultimately allowed so long as the individual spoke before the board.

               Who asked him to run?

Mr. Jacobs has attended more City Council meetings than any candidate other than the incumbents.  He has successfully introduced actions to the City Council and the Board of Supervisors that were at first resisted, but then approved by each body once it was clear it had the support of the citizens.  He warned the Council about giving up their Sphere of Influence as it was the exact area where the quarry is planning to operate. Unfortunately the Council blew this off, and now has to spend 10s of thousands of taxpayer dollars to fight this in court.  Because of his visibility and vision, he was asked to run by individuals of various political persuasions – showing that he is not beholden to one political party or one philosophy.

Jamie White  is small business owner performing quality control training for HUD staff on their regulations.  Ms. White said when government entities are in trouble call her.  She indicated she has four reasons for running. 

                Agenda 21

Ms. White would advocate vigorously removing Agenda 21 from the City Planning
process.   She said it has been in force for more than 20 years.  In 1992, 120 countries signed on.  She stated that the UN wants America to get rid of the US constitution and adopt the UN constitution.  One of the methods of implementing Agenda 21 is the targeting local communities.  She said the Temecula City Council adopted a sustainability plan, a key component of Agenda 21. 

She wants to protect the citizens from harmful pathogens from Agenda 21.  For example, purple fire hydrants use reclaimed water – she says there is E Coli in it that can lead to serious intestinal problems.  The water contains parasites according to Ms. White’s statements. Reclaimed water is part of sustainability plan.  She said the government will regulate the water issues.  She says she is a
conservative but doesn’t believe in UN forcing billions of dollars to get their
agenda out.

Another aspect of Agenda 21 is Urbanization – dorm style living.  She and Patrice Lynes said in the visioning of Jefferson Corridor what is missing are vehicles – by 2050 they said there would be no more cars.  The plan forces the heavy use of bikes and walking.  The “sustainability plan” envisions building 4 and 5 story buildings with housing at the top and businesses and retail at the bottom two levels.  The concept is for citizens to live, work and play in the same area.  She stated that in a “Sustainable City” – suburbia and property rights will be gone.  If elected, Ms. White said there would be strict oversight for the people, by the people, through “me”.  She would put property rights first and refuse federal or state funds for sustainable development.  She would work to repeal any grants that infringe on individual property rights.

                Public Safety

Ms. White said she wants to ensure Public Safety.  She said there is no such thing as the 2nd safest city per her sources at the FBI.

                Transparency

She says citizens often beg City Council don’t do this or please do this and they don’t listen, they just vote 5-0 to do whatever they already had in mind.  Says documents related to city of Temecula meetings cannot be found on their web site which was disputed by another attendee.

Ms. White stated that she spearheaded the $517 million RDA debt issue by contacting the State Controller’s office.  State audits usually show numbers are even higher – the RDA debt numbers given to State by the City.  Ms. White stated that the state employee she spoke with indicated that maybe there was an illegal transfer of assets and expects the $517 million debt figure to increase. 

                Who asked her to run?

Jamie White said the people of Temecula asked her to run; that they need her vision.  She went on to say “God picked me – God chose me to run for the City of Temecula [city council].”

 

There you have it – two candidates who are very concerned about Agenda 21 (Lynes and White) and one (Jacobs) who indicated it is a “non-binding” agreement calling for conservation of resources.  Mr. Jacobs was the only speaker to tout his long-term opposition to the quarry as his #1 platform issue, citing how it will cause untold health problems, change the landscape forever and will turn this valley into “Mine Country, not Wine Country”.  On the issue of transparency in government, Mr. Jacobs is the only candidate who was able to demonstrate actual actions he took to open citizens’ access to local government.  Both Ms. Lynes and Ms. White mentioned their concerns with the RDA debt and questioned the numbers provided by the City of Temecula VS the State Controller’s office.  Mr. Jacobs has been a long-time opponent of the improper use of RDA funds and has spoken before the Council on this topic numerous times.

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On the right side October 15, 2012 at 05:01 AM
Popeye, if you are looking for a LOSER,LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
Popeye October 15, 2012 at 05:49 AM
How untrue your statement about the incumbents. Such a silly comment from Temecula Tea Bagger Suntard. Uneducated Tea Bagger!
Popeye October 15, 2012 at 05:53 AM
Ha ha ha. Please get off the dingle berry side. TEA BAGGERS.......
Tom Courbat October 15, 2012 at 06:18 AM
Notwithstanding worthless and inflamatory comments from "Popeye", I hope the content of the blog (remember the blog, that's what this is all about) was helpful in gaining insight to what the candidates had to say.
Tom Courbat October 15, 2012 at 06:20 AM
I have an idea, let's just all completely ignore "Popeye" as if he isn't even there. He really isn't "all there", if you get my drift. It is a waste of time responding to him, and doing so only feeds his very weak and fragile ego. I don't see him or hear him anymore, do any of you?
Temecula Sunshine October 15, 2012 at 06:35 AM
Popeye, Your continued bigoted, hateful comments have no place here, but you are doing a good job showing the type of people that support the incumbents, so by all means, please continue. Your use of "suntard" is particularly enlightening. So yes, please continue the attacks. You are making the case for the challengers quite well. But to address your concern, here is a quote from a PE article from 2010: "Temecula Councilwoman Maryann Edwards, who is running for re-election along with Mayor Jeff Comerchero and Councilman Ron Roberts, said her council has long supported the tea party's conservative principles. She noted Temecula passed an E-Verify law and maintains a balanced budget. "I'm telling people that I agree with almost everything the tea party stands for," Edwards said." http://www.pe.com/local-news/local-news-headlines/20100919-tea-party-movement-builds-inland-momentum.ece Please, read the article, and tell me that they do not support the Tea Party. Now that is settled, I look forward to your next incoherent rant.
JP October 15, 2012 at 02:22 PM
My thoughts exactly.
JP October 15, 2012 at 02:35 PM
Paul Jacobs earned my vote. What a good guy. Jamie White had my vote until she said "God picked her." Wow.
Tom October 15, 2012 at 03:11 PM
JP dont be so shallow!!! If Jamie White believes that God is calling for her to run then that is between her and God. Her platform has nothing to do with religion other then defaeting the religion of Enviormentalism and Agenda 21. That issue as well as the issue of city debt are the major issues of this election. The most important thing is that Washington and Naggar are defeated, so we can try and gain some control back over this out of control city council.
Super Bluto October 15, 2012 at 05:10 PM
Popeye, why does a racist, socialist, meth dealer from Hemet care about Temecula politics? What are you getting out of this?
Sheila Broflovski October 15, 2012 at 05:13 PM
Yeah, we get what she means. That is no more important to this election than Paul Jacobs being a Muslim.
Kenny McCormick October 15, 2012 at 05:14 PM
Paul Jacobs is a Muslim?
The Patriot October 15, 2012 at 05:20 PM
Well written Tom. Are you still maintaining your position that the Tea Party is wing nuts and if so does your boy, Paul Jacobs, feel the same way? Is Popeye Paul Jacobs?
Tom Courbat October 16, 2012 at 12:57 AM
Wow, how absolutely amazing. all most of you can do is throw mud, stones, sand and other a-sordid objects of cruelty and ignorance. They used to say you can't be all things to all people, but y'all have just proven that wrong. Hey Paul, did you realize you are 1)"a talking idiot libtard", 2)a "liberal" (I seem to recall Jesus being a liberal but I guess His teachings aren't compatible with the neo-con definition of "liberal"), 3)a Sufi Muslim, 4)a "slobbering Liberal Democrap", 5)a "total liberal" (these five from just the few entries above) and then from other blog entries you are 6)a teabagger, 7) etc. Don't have the time or inclination to look up all the other wonderful tags folks have managed to affix to you. But you are definitely a man of the people as they have made sure you are indeed all things to all people. Oh, did I forget to mention you are also "...passionate, reasonable and most importantly, not looking for a career..."? That you have demonstrated a "strong defense of Temecula's wine country, community health and senior citizens..." and that you "...lead with the utmost of integrity." And that lastly you "have the courage of conviction to do what is right for the community." And since this is a non-partisan race, Paul Jacobs' party affiliation or lack thereof should be of absolutely NO concern, unless you NEED your party to tell you who to vote for. Look up his voter registration status if it's so damned important to you!
Josey Wales October 16, 2012 at 01:16 AM
Courbat, your an idiot. With friends like you who needs enemies?
Stanley October 16, 2012 at 02:19 AM
Paul Jacobs has my vote. This quarry will do a lot of damage to the city, not to mention blow cancer-causing silica dust over the population. Kids will die of cancer. Patrice Lynes looked for an issue to hit the incumbents and chose 'Agenda 21' - a total non-issue. She'd add nothing to the city. Jamie White's comment about god speaking to her is laughable. She's either a phoney looking for the religious vote or a narcissist who believes she's a very special person.
Tom Courbat October 16, 2012 at 09:32 AM
Hey Josey - afraid to use your real name, aren't you? You say "...your an idiot...". Really, and you base that on your inability to understand what I have written, or your lack of ability to correctly use the English language? You likely meant to use the word "You're", but I guess you didn't do so well in English class when contractions were studied. If you have nothing constructive to add to the conversation, why don't you just keep to yourself? Name calling is for kindergarteners.
Tom Courbat October 16, 2012 at 09:40 AM
Maybe "Josie" didn't get the complete and total sarcasm of my second paragraph, as I enumerated the hateful and totally unsupported labels people had affixed to Paul Jacobs in this blog alone. I'm sure most people got it, but your statement about "with friends like you who needs enemies" got me to thinking. It went right over your head. Hmm, maybe I need to dumb down my comments for folks like you.
Josey Wales October 17, 2012 at 07:14 PM
I have read all the BS you're slinging Courbat and your still an idiot.
Jim October 17, 2012 at 08:23 PM
Vice President Biden closed the first debate saying he always goes God for answers since he is a Catholic. Ryan said the same thing. President Obama said God and his faith is what guides him. Romney says God and his faith in God is how he makes decisions concerning his life, business and politics. Jamie says she prayed and got guidance and faith from God to run for city council and that is a bad thing. Isn't it better to have guidance from God instead of guidance from Rancon Real Estate?
JP October 17, 2012 at 08:34 PM
Correct. It's a bad thing when anyone says it.
Tom Courbat October 17, 2012 at 08:44 PM
Can't shut up, can you? Again, when someone has nothing of substance to say, they resort to "slinging BS". You're very good at that, I give you that.
Josey Wales October 17, 2012 at 09:25 PM
Courbat, your the one that needs to shut up, you cry like a little girl if someone doesn't like your guy. He doesn't even know the difference between a police station or a Sheriff's substation. People ain't going to vote for a socialist, Muslim like Jacobs. We got one in the White House and we're about to kick him out so if you can't handel what folks are saying...TOUGH!
Jim October 18, 2012 at 12:06 AM
Farakkhan just told the truth for once. There is no such thing as a moderate muslim. You are either a Muslim or you are not a muslim. The Koran is the Koran. Please, will all Muslim "men" go somewhere else and love Sharia Law and the Koran? Please leave our government alone. Here is the great Farakhan or whatever his name is. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/farrakhans-fiery-new-warning-to-the-u-s-every-plague-that-is-written-in-the-koran-is-going-to-come-to-pass-in-america/
Jim October 18, 2012 at 12:09 AM
Another Muslim male tried to blow up the Federal Reserve today. Again, why can't Islamic men just go back to the middle east (including Home Grown Muslims) and love Muhammad and Sharia Law and leave us alone? Why do you want to bring Islam here to America and Temecula? Just leave us alone. http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/17/justice/new-york-federal-reserve-terror-plot/index.html
Jim October 18, 2012 at 12:14 AM
You believe everything that Tom writes? Were we there? Nope. None of us. So Tom says something and we just go " yeah, lets vote for Paul". Duh. Paul is his guy. Unreal. This is the problem with our nation. You muslims are something else. Jamie just got my vote (God told me to do it). Patrice just got my second vote. Thanks. God actually matters in most of the lives of the citizens of Temecula. We are a Christian town.
Tom Courbat October 18, 2012 at 07:21 AM
A lie is a lie is a lie. You can repeat it over and over and over again, but it is still a lie! Where in the world did anyone come up with the idea that Paul Jacobs is a Muslim? Just because some of you might want to believe it (I have no idea why), doesn’t mean you should repeat it when you have absolutely NO EVIDENCE. We have a concept here in America – “innocent until PROVEN guilty”. Do any of you remember that? Or is that just for anyone who isn’t running for office? If anyone has credible evidence – BRING IT ON! Until then, just shut up and quit repeating the lie – it is obvious a number of you have conspired to smear Mr. Jacob’s reputation as a man of high integrity and concern for the people of Temecula. SHOW CREDIBLE EVIDENCE OR SHUT UP – evidence of being a (Sufi) Muslim, evidence of being a socialist (how do you define a socialist – would Jesus fit your description?), evidence of being a tea bagger, evidence of being a “slobbering liberal democrap”, etc. It’s the oldest trick in the book – when you have nothing of substance you resort to name calling to undermine the honest candidate. That’s what a number of you are doing, and I am exposing you for what you are here and now. As I said before – check his party affiliation with the Riverside County Registrar of Voters Office –It’s easy to do and is free. I challenge any of you to do it and tell us what you find out. The ball's in your court. Evidence please!
Tom Courbat October 18, 2012 at 07:44 AM
Can U identify ANY statements I have made that are “B.S.”. Like Romney, you say this and that (like I’ll cut taxes by $5 trillion and NOT add to the deficit but I won’t tell you what I will take away from you to balance it) but you can’t give any examples. Again, you resort to name calling b/c you can’t demonstrate anything I have said to be wrong. And that must frustrate the heck out of you! Hey Josie – you say I “…cry like a little girl…” – more name calling since you have nothing of substance to say. But let me think here, isn’t “Josie” a girl’s name and doesn’t “wales” mean crying? Hmm, I guess you just got confused about the “crying little girl” scenario. Understandable! And that problem you have with English crops up again when you say “Your (sic) the one…” when you really mean “You’re the one”. Maybe a simple spell check would make you look a bit more intelligent. Ah, not likely. You say “…ain’t going to vote for a socialist, Muslim like Jacobs…” and “…if you can’t handel (sic) it…”. You’re fun to play around with b/c you have yet to make ONE, yes Josie, even ONE statement of ANY substance with any facts to support it. We can all see you are desperate to smear Paul Jacobs, and will do so whether you have any facts or not, and you won't take the time to be sure your spelling and grammar are correct. BULLIES have been getting a well-deserved bad rap lately. You're a BULLY! Stop!
On the right side October 18, 2012 at 09:47 PM
Courbat, I hope you are paid by the number of words that you use. You would be a rich man. GO ROMNEY!!!!!
5150 October 19, 2012 at 04:22 PM
Vote out any current seated council memebers they are all jackasses, get some new blood in the Taj Mahal,.Cmon Man !!! get out and vote.

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